Comments on: Stewart Traill, the Al Capone of the 21st Century! http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/ Just another WordPress.com weblog Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:38:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: jim burke http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-657 jim burke Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:47:18 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-657 although i left long ago a life time in fact i still think about all that went on. i was in new york when i left for good. i do know that i found JESUS there. for by grace are yea saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of GOD. It is hard to deal with because I know we were trying to serve the Lord and to be taught that its the only way to serve Jesus. It is still depressing to think about and its been 30 years although i left long ago a life time in fact i still think about all that went on. i was in new york when i left for good. i do know that i found JESUS there. for by grace are yea saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of GOD. It is hard to deal with because I know we were trying to serve the Lord and to be taught that its the only way to serve Jesus. It is still depressing to think about and its been 30 years

]]> By: alease brink davis http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-612 alease brink davis Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:31:37 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-612 God has blessed you with those children and grandkids,Ave.I would have liked to have had more kids,but physical problems made it impossible.I thank God for the 3 that I have,no grandkids yet,though... God has blessed you with those children and grandkids,Ave.I would have liked to have had more kids,but physical problems made it impossible.I thank God for the 3 that I have,no grandkids yet,though…

]]> By: Ave http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-609 Ave Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:12:35 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-609 Anyone affected by Cobu or interested in what happened there and is happening in the lives outside the Cobu is welcome to our yahoo support group to read up and or join openly. The url is : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCobu4Jesus/ Thankyou for participating on these issues and may God help all who were and are affected by what Stewart Traill has done to their lives~ GBU~! Ave Anyone affected by Cobu or interested in what happened there and is happening in the lives outside the Cobu is welcome to our yahoo support group to read up and or join openly.
The url is : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCobu4Jesus/

Thankyou for participating on these issues and may God help all who were and are affected by what Stewart Traill has done to their lives~

GBU~!
Ave

]]> By: Ave http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-608 Ave Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:57:03 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-608 Good for you to keep diaries! I wish I had... I know being in Cobu made it nearly impossible to marry...and those who did had so many more demons to deal with if they remained in fellowship...Stewart didnt want any marriages or procreation since it would have dipped into his profits! I didnt marry til 1986 and divorced in 2001 from another x cobu member.WE were involved for 26 years and are friendly today. We have 5 children and 10 soon to be 11 grandchildren so I feel very blessed indeed to have escaped Cobu when I did. I still feel sad when I think of girls like Joy Irey and Megan Clark who were left with little hope of a future as women and now , still single and brainwashed into Cobu and obeying Stewart, are working for nothing and not doing the kingdom of God the service they believe they are doing but are rather serving and supporting Stewarts deception and greed. GBU~! Ave Good for you to keep diaries! I wish I had… I know being in Cobu made it nearly impossible to marry…and those who did had so many more demons to deal with if they remained in fellowship…Stewart didnt want any marriages or procreation since it would have dipped into his profits!
I didnt marry til 1986 and divorced in 2001 from another x cobu member.WE were involved for 26 years and are friendly today. We have 5 children and 10 soon to be 11 grandchildren so I feel very blessed indeed to have escaped Cobu when I did.
I still feel sad when I think of girls like Joy Irey and Megan Clark who were left with little hope of a future as women and now , still single and brainwashed into Cobu and obeying Stewart, are working for nothing and not doing the kingdom of God the service they believe they are doing but are rather serving and supporting Stewarts deception and greed.
GBU~!
Ave

]]> By: alease brink davis http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-605 alease brink davis Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:30:05 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-605 I left the COBU on March 21,1977.I was married on March 21,1981.It didnt occur to me at the time I chose the date.Maybe at some deep level,I knew I would not have ever married,if I had stayed in the COBU.I always kept diaries back then,that's how I know the exact date.. I left the COBU on March 21,1977.I was married on March 21,1981.It didnt occur to me at the time I chose the date.Maybe at some deep level,I knew I would not have ever married,if I had stayed in the COBU.I always kept diaries back then,that’s how I know the exact date..

]]> By: alease Brink Davis http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-585 alease Brink Davis Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:21:50 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-585 Doona,your post really hit home with me.I never lived in the commune,but I can relate to the wierd abuses we suffered in the COBU.Its strange,but none of us ever seemed to question why Stewart had a mansion,4 planes,etc...I guess we somehow thought he either "deserved it"for being "God's man",or that he actually needed it in some way,in order to do God's will.It all sounds so stupid now,looking back on it.We were young,trusting and idealistic people(the very kind of people that join cults!)I'm so glad Jesus protected you in those dangerous situations.I,too,feel sad that many of the brothers and sisters gave up their dreams of marriage,children,careers,education,because of that evil man ,Stewart.My biggest dream was to fall in love and be married...which,in itself,put me in conflict with the COBU."Liking a guy"was a big no-no,and treated like a major crime.Every time two people showed an interest in each other,it had to be immediately dealt with,broken up.I saw this happen a number of times.If a couple(boyfriend-girlfriend)joined COBU,Stewart would send them off to live in other states.This was in order to try to break up their relationship.He would have married couples living for a year in a wharehouse with hundreds of other people.They had no privacy,no intimacy,no time alone,obviously,no sex.At the time,I didnt think too much about it,but now I realize that is such an abnormal situation for a husband and wife.Im sure Stewart wasnt living this way with his young wife!It must have been an attempt to break the married couples up,or something.Who knows,it was all so bizarre.Sometimes I would start to feel as if I had somehow dreamed the whole thing,it seems so unreal now.More like a nightmare... Doona,your post really hit home with me.I never lived in the commune,but I can relate to the wierd abuses we suffered in the COBU.Its strange,but none of us ever seemed to question why Stewart had a mansion,4 planes,etc…I guess we somehow thought he either “deserved it”for being “God’s man”,or that he actually needed it in some way,in order to do God’s will.It all sounds so stupid now,looking back on it.We were young,trusting and idealistic people(the very kind of people that join cults!)I’m so glad Jesus protected you in those dangerous situations.I,too,feel sad that many of the brothers and sisters gave up their dreams of marriage,children,careers,education,because of that evil man ,Stewart.My biggest dream was to fall in love and be married…which,in itself,put me in conflict with the COBU.”Liking a guy”was a big no-no,and treated like a major crime.Every time two people showed an interest in each other,it had to be immediately dealt with,broken up.I saw this happen a number of times.If a couple(boyfriend-girlfriend)joined COBU,Stewart would send them off to live in other states.This was in order to try to break up their relationship.He would have married couples living for a year in a wharehouse with hundreds of other people.They had no privacy,no intimacy,no time alone,obviously,no sex.At the time,I didnt think too much about it,but now I realize that is such an abnormal situation for a husband and wife.Im sure Stewart wasnt living this way with his young wife!It must have been an attempt to break the married couples up,or something.Who knows,it was all so bizarre.Sometimes I would start to feel as if I had somehow dreamed the whole thing,it seems so unreal now.More like a nightmare…

]]> By: alease davis http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-544 alease davis Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:43:58 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-544 I would love to be contacted by anyone who knew me from the COBU in Cleveland,in the late 70's.This cult did horrible spiritual damage to me,that I suffer from to this day.My name then was Alease Brink.Donna Deming was my "shepherd". I sruggle with weird,tormenting religious fears every day of my life.I think alot of it began with the COBU!Please feel free to contact me at Galgonedaft@aol.com.Even COBU members who did not know me personally,let me hear from you.Maybe,you can help me find a way to be freed from these thoughts.Your Sister in Christ Jesus,Alease Brink Davis I would love to be contacted by anyone who knew me from the COBU in Cleveland,in the late 70’s.This cult did horrible spiritual damage to me,that I suffer from to this day.My name then was Alease Brink.Donna Deming was my “shepherd”. I sruggle with weird,tormenting religious fears every day of my life.I think alot of it began with the COBU!Please feel free to contact me at Galgonedaft@aol.com.Even COBU members who did not know me personally,let me hear from you.Maybe,you can help me find a way to be freed from these thoughts.Your Sister in Christ Jesus,Alease Brink Davis

]]> By: Frederick http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-525 Frederick Sat, 24 May 2008 06:20:30 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-525 By God's grace I took the good and left the rest during my stint at COBU. A rare thing, it seems. I still like the color code, see it as a valid interpretation device, and the lamb workbooks. Since I left the Church of Bible Understanding so quickly is there any way to get at the other publications from COBU???? By God’s grace I took the good and left the rest during my stint at COBU. A rare thing, it seems. I still like the color code, see it as a valid interpretation device, and the lamb workbooks. Since I left the Church of Bible Understanding so quickly is there any way to get at the other publications from COBU????

]]> By: David M. Richardson http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-523 David M. Richardson Thu, 15 May 2008 08:38:46 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-523 I came and left and went back and repeated this from 76 to 80 when I finally came back to the Washington DC fellowship I was branded a emotional backslider and was forced to live in a Gospel Mission on fifth and G. I worked at the Holiday Inn with another brother and was faithful to show up for fellowship nightly I finally asked Jimmy, Stewards current second in command If I could move back into fellowship. He asked are you still being emotional.. I said yes timidly, Since I was used to being the yes boss drone I had turned into... Needless to say I left and never looked back after six weeks of living in horrible conditions and having to get up at six am daily at the gospel mission. I new that Steward forbid girlfriends and I was not a likely cannadate for his no marriage rule...So I just gave up on the fellowship and on Christ since it was impossible for a horrible backsliding reprobate like myself to ever go to heaven apart from Steward Trail and COBU. I sentenced myself to drugs, alchol,woman and a life of sin that destroyed me. Because I ate his lie and believed that I could never be faithful enough apart from the COBU! Finally, at 48 years Old Jesus has brought me home. I may not be perfect by i am saved by the blood of the only Son Of God and will be perfected by him not by Steward Trail. This man needs to go to prison he is the Al Capone of Evangelism! I came and left and went back and repeated this from 76 to 80 when I finally came back to the Washington DC fellowship I was branded a emotional backslider and was forced to live in a Gospel Mission on fifth and G. I worked at the Holiday Inn with another brother and was faithful to show up for fellowship nightly I finally asked Jimmy, Stewards current second in command If I could move back into fellowship. He asked are you still being emotional.. I said yes timidly, Since I was used to being the yes boss drone I had turned into… Needless to say I left and never looked back after six weeks of living in horrible conditions and having to get up at six am daily at the gospel mission. I new that Steward forbid girlfriends and I was not a likely cannadate for his no marriage rule…So I just gave up on the fellowship and on Christ since it was impossible for a horrible backsliding reprobate like myself to ever go to heaven apart from Steward Trail and COBU. I sentenced myself to drugs, alchol,woman and a life of sin that destroyed me. Because I ate his lie and believed that I could never be faithful enough apart from the COBU! Finally, at 48 years Old Jesus has brought me home. I may not be perfect by i am saved by the blood of the only Son Of God and will be perfected by him not by Steward Trail. This man needs to go to prison he is the Al Capone of Evangelism!

]]> By: Layla http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-510 Layla Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:15:35 +0000 http://avehurley.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/stewart-traill-the-al-capone-of-the-21st-century/#comment-510 I was thinking the same thing about Stewart Traill. He is an interesting fellow. I was thinking the same thing about Stewart Traill. He is an interesting fellow.

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