March 14
What do the following have in common???
Olde Good things,
S&G Photographics.
Christian Brothers Carpet Cleaning.
Stewart Traill is the man behind the plans.
The Forever Family became the Church of Bible Understanding .
The ’tax exempt status’ achieved in 1976, became a ticket to ride for Stewart Traill ,who emerged like a ‘mob boss’.
His achievements make him comparable to the Al Capone of the 21st century~but with ‘one upmanship’, since Capone was finally nailed for income tax evasion, Traill has that covered from the gitgo…First, become a ‘church’ and then work the flock. He had a willing [although brainwashed] army of workers paying as little as $1 day for endless hours of work. Thousands of coverts passed through COBU over the next 30+ years.
[It's a wise man that learns from the mistakes of another!]
Just like Al Capone……………..
Traill is all powerful, charismatic, devious, elusive, enigmatic, unscrupulous, admired, loved, hated, feared, envied, covertly runs his enterprises, eliminates the competition hands down.
The parallels that can be drawn to both men is undeniable.
Each started a life of [con/ crime] at a relatively early.
Both left school after having different ’social’ issues.
Capone’s was over a physical incident with a teacher,
Traill’s was over an incident with his physics teachers.
Both scraped at menial odd jobs.
Capone worked at a candy store and a bowling alley.
Trail worked repairing used vacuum cleaners and selling them at flee markets.
Both made their ‘big’ money through other peoples hard labors and sufferings.
Both showed/show no remorse.
Both married Irish women.
Both had junior sons they each called “Sonny.”
Both set the stage for one of the most notorious careers in modern American history.
Capone’s recognized talents in his ‘crime field of endeavour’ got him quickly elevated to running his ‘organization’ . He operated his organization in virtual darkness.He was increasingly psychotic and a dangerous man.
Traill’s recognized talents in his “religious field of endeavour” got him elevated to running his own cult. He operated his organization in virtual darkness. He is becoming increasingly psychotic and also considered a dangerous man by those whose lives he wrecked.
Capone’s bootlegging during Prohibition made him a fortune catapulting him to investments in other businesses and investments.
Traill’s maneuvering to attain legal ‘church status’ gained a tax exemption number, amassing him an unaccountable fortune, using members as a hard working slave labor force, catapulting him into multiple business ventures and setting off a money making machine that can not be accurately assessed. He has professional tax people looking for any and all loopholes to avoid as much tax as possible.
Like Capone eliminating Colismo for his reluctance to move forward into another area of crime business.
Traill soon began systematically eliminating workers reluctant to comply with his brainwashing techniques and in his business .
When city govt’s began putting pressure on either, each , moved out of the city limits, running their enterprises in created safe zones for operations, leaving there workers behind and controlling from a distance.
Both shared a sense of entitlement.
Both were/are narcissistic, lacked/lack empathy for the people serving them.It took 30 years before anyone got any group insurance and that is centralized, while the members are dispursed nationwide.
Al Capone was notorious for control over large areas of Chicago during Prohibition Era.
Traill’s is notorious for details in maintaining control in all of his members and enterprises. The Christian Brothers Carpet Cleaning Service knocked out the competition in most of NYC through little or no labor overhead as members were brainwashed into working for as little as a $1 a day. Evenings were spwnt going out witnessing and bringing in more recruits.
Although Capone’s “organization” was making a great deal of money from illegal prostitution and alcohol, much was laundered or unacccounted for.
Traill’s “organization” is making a fortune off of wielding its ‘tax emption status’ soliciting donations and a retentive slave labor force in his business ventures and human rights violations having members work 7 days a week and sleeping on floors in filthy rat infested warehouses and cold water flats.
Both Capone and Traill remained virtually immune from prosection due to witness intimidation. Capone killed his opposers, Traill works them to death.
Both Capone and Traill were reputed to have several retreats and hideouts.
Both bought retreats in Florida, running their operations from a safe distance.
Neither were ever indicted for their commonly known crimes.
Throughout their reigns a number of attempts have been made to bring them to justice.
Both had issues with infidelity in their marriages.
Capone tried to whitewash his image and be seen as a community leader by creating a daily milk ration for the school kids of Chicago to prevent Ricketts.
Traill white washes his businesses and avoids taxes by starting a feeding program for children in Haiti, even becoming eligible for Government grants and receiving them, as well as tax free donations for the ’cause’.
Capone always did his business through ‘front men’ and no accounting records were kept in his name.Even his mansion was under his wife’s name.
Traill also does business through ‘front men’ in his COBU.He claims no salary on record and pre-empts the IRS for getting him for tax evasion.
Capone headed the list as public enemy # 1 for corrupting the city.
Traill is #1 public enemy of all those whose livelihoods and youth he stole.
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In certain ways Traill also reminds me of the late John Gotti.[charismatic, powerful, enigmatic, rich ] I met Mr.Gotti when he frequented a place I used to work at when I was 18-19 yrs old. He was always polite, generous and very well groomed. [As long as you didn't cross him , he could be your best friend.] Unlike Stewart, Mr.Gotti enjoyed being a public celebrity, but history reveals more.
Outwardly however, Stewart was the opposite of Gotti, as there was nothing dapper or classy about Stewart enjoyed his celebrity status within the Cult itself. Stewart wore junk clothing was unkempt yet endeared members to himself.
They were alike in their quiet under the counter way they doing business and cheating the laborers giving as littel as possible but collecting gross returns.
In private when visiting the Phil Center House , I occasionally cross paths at night with Stewart, coming to or from the kitchen while I was reading room and Stewart would be cordial and engage in chit chat askign about what I was learning in the bible, for a moment, but as time passed he became all but unapproachable , like the Great and powerful “OZ”,,,,
His devilish genius is up their with like a dictator.
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The Church of Bible Understanding {COBU} emerged out of a small groups of fellowships on the east coast in the early 70’s.
They were kids who newly got saved and mostly that loved Jesus and wanted to serve him with their whole hearts.While many youth of the day were partying and getting high, these kids looked to Jesus to rule their lives and found fellowships together and walked the walk and talked the talk.
They were however young and impressionable and one older man, a devious power hungry narcissist, a man who was/is charismatic and so deviously wormed his way into this young fellowship, gaining trust and position began directing their steps into the direction that would eventually enslave them to him and remove their hopes for any quality of life in this world.
He was and still is a ‘destroyer’ holding [willing?] brainwashed captives to this very day and leaving in his wake, are all the people whose lives are still sorely affected by his treachery.
This is an account of the days when he was openly transforming these young Christians into his brainwashed servants.
What he does may not be ‘technically’ considered illegal, it should be and we need laws like the RICO, to prevent people like him from doing what they do.
But how? It is so insidious, as the victims he still controls have been socially cut off from the world of today and most fear re-entering it. Believe it or not, it is happening in NYC and other places around the US~! today……………….
It began in 1976, when COBU forces focused more on recruiting new potential work force members, than in teaching about the love of God, using their professions of faith as a tool to control them.
It was more involved than any could imagine.
Stewart Traill was charismatic and had that ability to mesmerize many people.
The original members who sensed things going wrong were systematically being discredited and eliminated as they now became a liability to Stewrat’s plans of birthing his own little nation of drones.
This was partly due to to the changing over from small self financed fellowships [that donated some money to Stewart] to a centralized pooling of finances, to which Stewart was in control of and began making the decisions on how members would live and where they would live and serve him.
He made some deals in NYC and Camden to buy some run down warehouses , then began herding COBU members out of their original fellowships across the country, into living in NYC warehouses.
Unfamiliar with NYC life and having no social contacts outside of the COBU, members became enslaved for the ’cause’, [still thinking they were serving Jesus] but actually being fed into Stewart’s BORG of worker drones for enterprises he was about to establish….
Stewarts’s ability to initially impress certain vulnerable people who would be open to listening proved fruitful for his business endeavours.
He saw who he could control as opposed to who he couldn’t. His focus was on control.
A pivotal part in his plans including gaining a tax exempt status and for that the group needed to be incorporated as a church and it was in 1975.
He needed that ‘front‘ of a Christian fellowship, as the means to achieve his ends.
Emphasizing about remaining faithful was one of the ’vehicles’ used to compel people to comply. Those who did not were verbally abused and shunned and cast down, to either escape or openly leave, but most had to escape.
How people left was also carefully calculated on Stewart’s part.. He couldn’t just allow people to leave while they were looking at all justified or that would lead to others leaving…so those leaving were discredited .
He needed to keep a ‘retentive work force’, so it was instilled through hard work and a series of long nightly meetings, that to leave was leaving Jesus and to not yield to the group, under his direction, was disobeying Jesus and punishable by hell fire. To leave was to backslide, losing all hopes of attaining heaven.
He could then surmize who would be suitable to be ingrafted or trained to stay and work.
Around May of 76 the word was sent out not to trust the ‘older’ long time members of any authority and the chain of command was broken, making him the sole authority and spokesperson for God.Newer, younger members were encouraged to verbally attack older members who were then shamed and shunned into submission, while the new recruits got a pat on the head and became Stewrat’s favorites & were developed into an almost type of Hitler Youth, to report anyone who might be into sin…[that is anyone revealing Stewart's plans]
Understanding the bible was no longer was the main precedent, compliance to Stewart’s plan was. They were being brainwashed.
This also encouraged a sense of less true spirituality and more minor narcissistic tendencies to emerge within the ranks and those who were good at being Official Reprovers [OR's} made everyone else fearful and careful not to be questioning or being dissident...anyone catching on and questioning Stewart was made to think they were sinful and had to repent, losing status attained and brought low to be ridiculed .
COBU got more and more militant, more physical labor, more compliance, more willingness to snitch to get a pat on the head from Stewart who was systematically setting up alliances with those he could trust to control and eliminate those who might eventually expose his game.
Out with the old , in with the new...
Eventually picking up homeless people who had 'no life anyway' and began exploiting them, as well as those with in the ranks, so long as the wheels kept turning and Stewart's power increased as the money rolled in..
Well here are some more of my thoughts on his devilish genious and under the counter achievements in the early days of COBU...
Now after manipulating and controlling thousands of people from 1971 through present, stealing their youth, energies, faith, dreams and more, Stewart has extracted his profit by the sufferings of those he controlled "in the name of a jesus,[not the real Jesus] making them think to disobey Stewart and his gang[or inner circle], was to be backsliding, sealing their fate to go to hell’a fate worse than death and prevent most from exposing the entire scam to the outside world officials.
By these methods he has controlled some for over 30 yrs! In exchange for giving their lives to his control, many have however learned to work in various businesses with the brainwashed privilege of donating their paychecks back to Stewart’s church{COBU} to avoid taxation.
They are ensnared since they can not leave with more than the clothes on their backs into a world they do not know.
Stewart in turns has provided minimal room and board and a stipend for each member.
At one point it was $1 a day for up to 18 hours hard labor! Sundays, the sabbath was cancelled so workers could make more money for Stewart’s ambitions.
A member earning up to $1000 a week could expect a stipend of up to $30 and carfare of up to $30. Money given to the members is in cash envelopes.
Governing boards of elite members have to penny pinch on each member or they themselves lose rank and privilege. Instilling the thought of crucifying their flesh to be sure they wouldnt ask for more.
Many members were/are underage runaways as well as adults with various degrees of personality disorders, less likely to complain of their abuse.
Those who can manage enough thought to question anything are suppressed or shunned and most eventually run away with the clothes on their backs and a trash bag of personal belongings reflecting the fruits of uyears of servitude to this inhumane system of human rights violations.
They would move the ‘drones’ through the underground apt/warehouse system , change the kids appearance [haircuts, dyed hair etc] and names and feed them into the church to become worker bees.
Moving them around to unfamiliar surroundings, never watching any TV , limited contact with nonmembers outsiders, instilling fear of the outside world and guilt so they would stay and not know how to leave or where to go.
They were constantly told that their own thoughts were evil and had to bring their minds under subjection, causing them to police each other and tell on anyone that would think of dissenting or questioning Stewart’s authority of those who answered directly to Stewart.
Stewart handpicked certain men who would follow his direction in exchange for a piece of the action, thus motivating others to do his dirty work.
He once ordered several men to beat his own minor son senselessly for shoplifting.The men were arrested after the boy was hospitalized in Philadelphia’s Childrens Hospital, but only received probation and Stewart himself was never charged! This happened in Philadelphia at the ‘lamb house’ where new recruits were conditioned, brainwashed and fed back into the work force.
Stewart Traill did/does however keep a paranoid sense of self preservation, never letting even his trusted enforcers be secure in their own positions. Secrecy was/is paramount to keeping control.
Any enforcer who showed/shows any inclination towards establishing more power was/is demoted quickly.
Keeping even his enforcers off guard Stewart Traill, became more powerful. He had/has enablers in business legal matters create ways to hide and launder money and cover their tracks so nothing could be traced to Stewart.
He also had everything placed under the church name to avoid taxes and recriminations but generous allowances for himself that were more than a king would receive. He would often say that he takes nothing from the church, since in fact it is laid at his feet.
The huge cash flow from these slave laborers, coupled with donations sought from corporations, government grants and outside volunteer sources mushroomed into a huge money making machine that can not even be estimated.
Some of this money and donations has been funneled and reinvested into other business ventures, creating new businesses that gradually have been detached from their original source.
Much of these practices are not unlike how organized crime attempts to go legite~Still it is blood money of those who were his slaves.
The transition from unskilled child/teen/young adult laborers to repairmen refurbishing used vacuum cleaners and selling them at flea markets[sales jobs included men and women] went to carpet cleaning services when Stewart purchaced 10 carpet cleaning machines in 1976 out of church funds.
‘Privileged’ loyal members would take a carpet cleaner and go out in the streets of NYC seeking businesses to clean carpets for. As the money began to flow, more carpet cleaners were purchased and more laborers sent out.
There was now endless work opportunites. Women members were sent out with ‘flyers’ soliciting businesses and making appointmets for the men to come and clean carpets.
Contracts were soon made with area businesses and corporations as the sales people sent in to negotiate deals by undercutting every business in the city.This was easy since the work force was slaves.
Stewart would have the enforcers push the men to work days, nights and weekends. It was not surprising that much of the work done was performed in places actually linked to organized crime in NYC.
Some notoriety occurred when the Seinfeld TV comedy series once made reference to them as the “Carpet Cleaning Cult”.
I talked with a member once who bragged about making over $300 a week. I asked her how much of that money did she actually recieve in hand, since when I was in they took my entire paycheck and never gave me an allowance.They were supposed to pay my debts off out of the money I ‘donated’ but never did that either.
After repeated questioning she finally admitted to getting $10 a week [and not every week did she receive it but when it was her time of month and she needed sanitary supplies]! Having a soda was a luxury and indulging in the flesh…
The workers slept in sleeping bags on the floors of dirty broken down warehouses in the Hell’s Kitchen section of NYC.
Up to 130 members shared squalored living conditions, having only 2 toilets and having no bathing facilities.
Members would weekly go to public showers to get washed. Lice , roaches and rat infested, one member told me that he bought dog flea shampoo to try and get the bugs out of his hair!
Since there were ’some’ married families involved in the early days, children would often become sick and have to go to clinics. When the same addresses came up for so many sick children, the Board of Health was sent in to discover the squalor and shut down some of Stewarts home warehouses, forcing him to buy some run down tenements and scatter his flock.
Members were then moved into overcrowded apartment buildings, living in ’shifts’ while the carpet cleaning business {Christian Brothers Carpet Cleaning Services} was born.
At this time any new marriages were strongly discouraged, celibacy and devotion were overly emphasized in the nightly meetings. All efforts went to creating a strong work force and keep costs down.
Area businesses made complaints to city officials as the COBU’s Christian Brothers Carpet Cleaning Services was putting others out of work.
Charges were filed for tax evasion and a new loop hole was found and employed.
Members were now given their salary checks as ‘independent contractors’ so the Christian Brothers didnt have to pay tax on their behalf. Then to keep all the money in Stewart’s pockets, these salaries were/are then donated to the COBU as charitable contributions.This way members also avoid paying taxes.
Members live/d meagerly off their allowance which never enables them to be able to afford to leave the group.
Delving into the authenticiating the tax exempt status of the ‘church’, Stewart Traill told the members about the movie “Marjo” and that the best way to beat the system was to establish a charity that was cheap to run, such as an orphanage in a third world country…
Stewart picked Haiti, the poorest country in the eastern hemisphere. One where he would come out the winner regardless to anything else.. This made the church look good to the public but was another way for him to exploit humankind.
Starting the mission was a stroke of devilish genius..feeding starving children..
They began soliciting larger corporate donations as well as government grants to assist in this mission , while not being monitored by any one.They accept any type of monetary or physical property in exchange for tax credits to those who donate.
These donations can not be totally accounted for since some who give, do not require charitable write off declarations.
Many antiquities ‘donated’ are then warehoused in Scranton Pa., under member guards and stored til they can resurface in yet another business of the church, ” Olde Good Things” E-bay store and sell valuables for thousands of dollars.
Tax accounting is now done very professionally and what is written down and accounted for has so far, met basic requirements to elude government detection, however this is an underground religious named version or organized crime!
COBU is no better than any other criminal enterprises in America, only more subtle and devious, undetectable except, perhaps by those who escaped its grasp and now live in anonymity, mentally , physically and spiritually abused for decades.
Imagine if Al Capone played himself off as an evangelist? Even most organized crime families draw the line at that!
Today, with over 25 yrs of guaranteed good service, Christian Brothers Carpet Cleaning Services are located in NYC, LA , SanDiego and Florida.
Customers have no idea of what evil enabled this business to form. It is said they even employ some outsiders which give the appearance of a normal enterprise.
The mission in Haiti was plagued with stories of abuse and mismanagement.
Young members went there to care for the children yet were unqualified in child care and many orphans have been beaten and abused without justice ever being served. Corporate donations still keep everything afloat and Traill still prospers from it.
He flies one of his 4 church owned planes to deliver the goods to Haiti with Uncle Sam’s picking up the tab under the Bush initiative of funding faith based human needs programs.
He has often had female member stuff up to $15,000 cash at a time in their clothing to go undetected.Where was that money going?
Stewart meanwhile could receive accolades for his human services, ironically…
Under the auspices of this charity, donations of planes, plane parts and services are covering most of the costs of operations.
New volunteers, separate from the drones have been enlisted to upscale the operation, making it look more honest.Most people are unaware of the sinister purpose of Stewart Traill have been unwittingly offering their services in good faith.
At least the orphans get fed…the higher percentage of what he collects to do this is however funneled into other ventures while a minimal percentage is used for the good.
Where are the Rico laws when you need them? How can a used vac repairman gain the power and position attained by Stewart Traill????
Ave,
I will print and read later.
Kevin
Dear Web Administrator: I was in COBU from 1974-1983 and Thank God I “Got Smart and Got Out!”God has graciously restored the years that the locust has eaten and done for Me far more abundantly than all I could have ever asked or imagined! He is such a faithful God! I thank you for putting this info up where others can be warned and saved from the miserable pain that so many have endured thinking that they were giving up everything for Jesus! Yours in Christ and once again thanks so much for this site!– Greg and Ann Walker!
This is great and will needed, also steward needs to be taken to court. i recieved my social sercutity statement and those years of service to the cobu are blank,
i want that money.
Eddie Dean
I was a member of C.O.B.U. from 75 -83 and returned briefly in 96 .
I have struggled terribly to adjust to life out side the cult . I always believed in the back of my mind that I needed to sell everything I had and return to C.O.B.U. if I was going to have any hope of being saved from hell.
The real issues with C.O.B.U. are where has all the money gone to. Stewart is not required to account for any of his actions by the members . All the members are to afraid to confront him. The I.R.S. records of the churchs fianaces look very very suspicious and actually very deceptive to me .The orphanage should be a tremendous sucess but it is a wreck. And what about the orphans ? Why havent any been adopted by members of the church or anyone for that matter ? Why don’t any of the members run their own business or pay their own taxes or have their own households or families . Members should at the very least be paid for their work in church business’ and pay taxes .
Which other Christian leaders is Stewart consulting with to be certain his teaching is accurate ?
I think Stewart is well aware of how he is abusing his authority. Whether or not he is , something is very wrong . His sexual escapades with some of the female members is what caused the majority of the ex members to become ex members . Why are current members not asking if Stewart is misbehaving with any female members. Why is Stewart above reproach ? The problem is he has intimidated all of them into being afraid to ask any questions about what is going on. They all want his approval and will do just about anything to get it. Their intentions are good.
It may be going a bit overboard calling Stewart a mobster. I believe he is deluded and has found way to justify his behavior. It will be much harder to convince God .
Sincerely Jeff Alge
EX COBU Member
Ave,
I was in FF, CoBU from 1974 until 1978 or 1979. You speak the truth.
I look back and can’t believe how willing we all were to not question it all, we were all so sincere and trusting. To be so dedicated to God sustained us all, yet I don’t believe I will can ever be such a fundamentalist again.
Chris Gauci
I have been trying to get in touch with Greg Walker for years. Can you give him my email address? Thanks!!
Wow, reading this made me relive those years- so true. Why does one pilot NEED four planes? It was my money that helped him to get his “toys”, while I rode the crowded subways, walked the streets of PAtterson, NJ alone at midnight, and slept 2 hours a night, went to work with no lunch money, was actually called names by brothers in the church, accused of things I didnt do, etc…..and to Stewart Traill I was a face in the crowd, a “paycheck”…and was also told to get an upgrade in a job to make more money, but had limited skills; after all, could I go to college? NO….Women were treated especially poor….we were always manipulators in the men’s eyes. Stewart wanted to make sure that marriage was very difficult, so we could never “achieve” it…. I left in 1985 after 10 years of it…(living in the New Jersey fellowships was especially harsh)-I was very sleep deprived and malnourished and took ricks in the name of meeting goals! How many young women would go to a man’s apartment at night to talk of Jesus!? I had no identification on me so I could have been an unidentified body! GOD protected me all those years…Stewart will have to stand before the living God one day and there is no escaping that–and he will have to answer for his actions.I also wonder what will happed to this COBU group when Stewart Traill passes away. Will they all disperse? Will it end? Or will there be a new Stewart to carry on?
I feel bad for those still there. I believe that most of them are truly sincere and mean well….but it saddens me to think of the women who will never have children and gave up personal lives because of Stewart. And the men too, never being fathers or seeing the real Jesus. So sad. I knew children that grew up there, that was their childhood–I would love to read a book from them! And Stewarts own children disowned him! That says alot.
Thanks–I could go on and on…(I also went to Haiti and saw the abuse)…I also handed out flyers and spent years working in the carpet business, in fact I was one of the last women to work in the business…I made flyers for their carpentry business and they made more $…I helped them get rich! No pay here.
Doona (Cavnar) Goding, Pennsylvania
I was thinking the same thing about Stewart Traill. He is an interesting fellow.
I came and left and went back and repeated this from 76 to 80 when I finally came back to the Washington DC fellowship I was branded a emotional backslider and was forced to live in a Gospel Mission on fifth and G. I worked at the Holiday Inn with another brother and was faithful to show up for fellowship nightly I finally asked Jimmy, Stewards current second in command If I could move back into fellowship. He asked are you still being emotional.. I said yes timidly, Since I was used to being the yes boss drone I had turned into… Needless to say I left and never looked back after six weeks of living in horrible conditions and having to get up at six am daily at the gospel mission. I new that Steward forbid girlfriends and I was not a likely cannadate for his no marriage rule…So I just gave up on the fellowship and on Christ since it was impossible for a horrible backsliding reprobate like myself to ever go to heaven apart from Steward Trail and COBU. I sentenced myself to drugs, alchol,woman and a life of sin that destroyed me. Because I ate his lie and believed that I could never be faithful enough apart from the COBU! Finally, at 48 years Old Jesus has brought me home. I may not be perfect by i am saved by the blood of the only Son Of God and will be perfected by him not by Steward Trail. This man needs to go to prison he is the Al Capone of Evangelism!
By God’s grace I took the good and left the rest during my stint at COBU. A rare thing, it seems. I still like the color code, see it as a valid interpretation device, and the lamb workbooks. Since I left the Church of Bible Understanding so quickly is there any way to get at the other publications from COBU????
I would love to be contacted by anyone who knew me from the COBU in Cleveland,in the late 70’s.This cult did horrible spiritual damage to me,that I suffer from to this day.My name then was Alease Brink.Donna Deming was my “shepherd”. I sruggle with weird,tormenting religious fears every day of my life.I think alot of it began with the COBU!Please feel free to contact me at Galgonedaft@aol.com.Even COBU members who did not know me personally,let me hear from you.Maybe,you can help me find a way to be freed from these thoughts.Your Sister in Christ Jesus,Alease Brink Davis
Doona,your post really hit home with me.I never lived in the commune,but I can relate to the wierd abuses we suffered in the COBU.Its strange,but none of us ever seemed to question why Stewart had a mansion,4 planes,etc…I guess we somehow thought he either “deserved it”for being “God’s man”,or that he actually needed it in some way,in order to do God’s will.It all sounds so stupid now,looking back on it.We were young,trusting and idealistic people(the very kind of people that join cults!)I’m so glad Jesus protected you in those dangerous situations.I,too,feel sad that many of the brothers and sisters gave up their dreams of marriage,children,careers,education,because of that evil man ,Stewart.My biggest dream was to fall in love and be married…which,in itself,put me in conflict with the COBU.”Liking a guy”was a big no-no,and treated like a major crime.Every time two people showed an interest in each other,it had to be immediately dealt with,broken up.I saw this happen a number of times.If a couple(boyfriend-girlfriend)joined COBU,Stewart would send them off to live in other states.This was in order to try to break up their relationship.He would have married couples living for a year in a wharehouse with hundreds of other people.They had no privacy,no intimacy,no time alone,obviously,no sex.At the time,I didnt think too much about it,but now I realize that is such an abnormal situation for a husband and wife.Im sure Stewart wasnt living this way with his young wife!It must have been an attempt to break the married couples up,or something.Who knows,it was all so bizarre.Sometimes I would start to feel as if I had somehow dreamed the whole thing,it seems so unreal now.More like a nightmare…
I left the COBU on March 21,1977.I was married on March 21,1981.It didnt occur to me at the time I chose the date.Maybe at some deep level,I knew I would not have ever married,if I had stayed in the COBU.I always kept diaries back then,that’s how I know the exact date..
Good for you to keep diaries! I wish I had… I know being in Cobu made it nearly impossible to marry…and those who did had so many more demons to deal with if they remained in fellowship…Stewart didnt want any marriages or procreation since it would have dipped into his profits!
I didnt marry til 1986 and divorced in 2001 from another x cobu member.WE were involved for 26 years and are friendly today. We have 5 children and 10 soon to be 11 grandchildren so I feel very blessed indeed to have escaped Cobu when I did.
I still feel sad when I think of girls like Joy Irey and Megan Clark who were left with little hope of a future as women and now , still single and brainwashed into Cobu and obeying Stewart, are working for nothing and not doing the kingdom of God the service they believe they are doing but are rather serving and supporting Stewarts deception and greed.
GBU~!
Ave
Anyone affected by Cobu or interested in what happened there and is happening in the lives outside the Cobu is welcome to our yahoo support group to read up and or join openly.
The url is : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCobu4Jesus/
Thankyou for participating on these issues and may God help all who were and are affected by what Stewart Traill has done to their lives~
GBU~!
Ave
God has blessed you with those children and grandkids,Ave.I would have liked to have had more kids,but physical problems made it impossible.I thank God for the 3 that I have,no grandkids yet,though…
although i left long ago a life time in fact i still think about all that went on. i was in new york when i left for good. i do know that i found JESUS there. for by grace are yea saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of GOD. It is hard to deal with because I know we were trying to serve the Lord and to be taught that its the only way to serve Jesus. It is still depressing to think about and its been 30 years